Kommentare zu: Konzeptsteckbrief 4: Familienleben im globalen Dorf

Von: steffen schuler

steffen schuler — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:25:44 +0000

Das Konzept kann man sich auch direkt auf den Microsoft-Seiten ansehen. Da müste 3Frogs ja noch nicht einmal selbst entwickeln - bravo! Ein Schelm wer sich böses dabei denkt (war da nicht ein wichtiger Microsoftler in der Jury…)

Angucken kann man sich das ganze hier:

http://www.microsoftmediaroom.com/

16. Juli, T-Bonn

Von: Rolf Hemmerling

Rolf Hemmerling — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:27:16 +0000

I was on the CEBIT 2008 developer meeting of this competition - and where where you ? -, and we were there officially *warned* by the TELEKOM developers about the problem and the necessity of “context switching” - so if the family’s daughter uses the IPTV device, she does not want to share their settings and the information of her command and contents history with her parents.
So its necessary to detect when a different person uses the device, by clever means.

From this point of view, the idea that several people share the same device and use a common context (and so user settings, special user informations, command and contents history visible to anybody), is .. boring.

One well-known success principle of new technologies is

EITHER to change the use cases (and user interface)
OR to change the technology
but NOT both things at the same time.

So if there is a wish since 40 years, that any family member wants his/her own TV set program selection, radio and CD player selection what station and CD is played, why do you try to argue against this, and want to force to sit at a “camp fire”, what they donÂ´t do so since 40 years ?

The ONLY reason for a TV camp fire experience in the first 20 years was the cost of the device, plus the room situation. Since the early 1970th, coming with the tendency to have more than one TV set in a flat, the campfire is DEAD.

I live single, donÂ´t have a girlfriend, almost never shared TV with my parents since the age of 12. I remember I was surprised about the movie “While You Were Sleeping” ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114924/ ), that in relations there is a fight who controls the “remote control”, so what TV program is selected, and what to do in advertising breaks ( switching to another channel or not, sound off,… ?).

So please developers of 3Frogs, have a try and look “While you were sleeping” to understand why your concept is rubbish.

PS: Sandra Bullock is great !

Sincerely
Rolf

Von: Robert Janssen (3 frogs)

Robert Janssen (3 frogs) — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 10:03:05 +0000

Yes, you could say the innovation with this concept is not very high, but thatâ€™s just our point! We want to create an new dimension to IPTV with a low use and acceptance level. Besides this the possibilities on IPTV are limited at this moment.
However by creating environment based on this concept people will use IPTV more and more. Of course in a similar way as they could do on the Internet, BUT with the big difference they can share and enjoy together leaning back on the couch.
The interaction is limited within the first stage, but by creating a large mass and adding more functionality the possibilities are unlimited for interaction, services and business opportunities!

Despite the fact that people who have IPTV will have an internet connection, people will use the IPTV version for enjoying just because of easier access and they can â€˜lean backâ€™ together.

Von: Robert Schlabbach

Robert Schlabbach — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:32:55 +0000

I don’t quite see where this concept interacts with the TV signal. I thought the idea of this award was to invent interactive TV applications, as the name tells?

But this concept appears to be yet another social networking service, with a client running on an IPTV receiver slapped on to it. You might as well only implement a frontend for Facebook or Myspace…

IMHO, people who want to use such services will prefer to use their PC for it. And those who don’t want to use a PC won’t have any IPTV service in the first place. So where is the target group for this project?

Von: Patrick

Patrick — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:49:15 +0000

For me this is the most promising concept I see among the contestants.
It seems both down to earth and still adding a great value to the use of the TV. It has to be admitted that it is not really that innovative. But I didn’t see any really innovative concept here. This might be a result of the Mediaroom platform being somewhat limited.
To Mr. Hemmerlings critique I have to say, that it somehow misses the point. It’s not mainly about one family living in one house. It’s about families living scattered around the country. (I don’t say world as this concept might only work inside one telekom provider).

On the other side I find the campfire metapher a little to lofty. And why limiting it to the family and not extending it to one’s “social network” - unless you say this concept makes the whole world a big family! (lofty, you see?)

All the best for the next round!

Patrick

Von: Robert Janssen (3 frogs)

Robert Janssen (3 frogs) — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:31:24 +0000

Dear Mr. Hemmerling,

We think that innovation should be simple by using the existing trends and available technology.
Besides using the power of IPTV to watch everyoneâ€™s own preferred show, movie or match, with the concept of FamilienFun there will be an easy way to connect and to keep in touch with all user types and ages within families.

In the old days warmed by telling stories around the campfire, today by sharing emotions through IPTV!

Maybe we will meet someday so we could really debate, but with only text messages we agree this will boringâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦

With kind regards,

Robert Janssen

Von: Rolf Hemmerling

Rolf Hemmerling — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 06:28:46 +0000

So ein Käse,
schon mit 12 Jahren wollte ich was anderes “gucken” als meine Eltern, und noch dazu zu anderen Zeiten… und meine Eltern wollten was anderes schauen als ich.

Daher haben Jugendliche auch den Wunsch nach einem eigenen TV, einem eigenen Internet-PC, ect.

Da trifft sich nix am Lagerfeuer, respektive dem EINEN TEUREN TV-Gerät bzw. IPTV-Gerät.
Da ist jeder schön für sich allein im eigenen Zimmer.

Das gemalte Stimmungsbild verdient aber trotzdem Hochachtug - ja so kann man ausmalen, dass angeblich etwas funktioniert, was nicht funktionieren wird…

Also insgesamt Schnappsidee.
Eine Schande, dass sowas in die 2.Runde kommt.
Innovativ - keine Spur.
Langweilig wird’s…..

Grüsse
Rolf